Famke Janssen says she will not return as Jean Grey in Avengers Doomsday: “When I say that, people don’t believe me. So I’m just gonna wait for the movie to come out and, you know, people can see for themselves.”
People keep saying “Right, just like Tobey and Andrew… ;)”, ignoring the very recent case of Chloe Bennett saying she wasn’t in Secret Invasion and being completely truthful.
Markus28222025-11-19 03:54
Chloe Bennett didn’t have nearly every other major star from Agents of Shield appear in Secret Invasion
Triforce8052025-11-19 04:26
Agreed, like there was no real reason to believe she would appear in Secret Invasion other than fan speculation. Like the rest of the X-Men cast aside from Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry have been confirmed for Doomsday, that’s a pretty big reason to believe that Famke could appear in it
GratefulDoom902025-11-19 04:30
Literally the only reason they wouldn’t be having Famke come back is because of all the plastic surgery and her honestly jarring appearance.
Triforce8052025-11-19 04:43
I mean they could just do her in Phoenix form which would hide a lot of that anyway
GratefulDoom902025-11-19 04:54
I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying that is the only reason I can even think of for choosing not to include her, if she actually isn’t in this movie that is. Either that or they have a specific reason not to include Jean Grey, but idk what that could be either. It’s also technically possible they decided to recast the character or something.
I mean, basically every time I see a post with her face in it, one of the top comments is “WHAT HAPPENED TO HER???” It honestly is a little distracting. Again, I’m not saying it couldn’t or shouldn’t be done. I think it would be awesome if they got the entire main cast.
lakefront123452025-11-19 05:00
Ah man, I didn't know that until now.
I just watched a podcast with Debbie Dunning (tool time), and she has the same stuff.
I don't get it. I'd rather age naturally, but I'm also not a celebrity.
GratefulDoom902025-11-19 05:11
Oof. I just saw that too. I think it’s definitely possible that the exaggerated features make them look better within the context of movies or something? I’ve seen some crazy plastic surgery that looked really rough in interviews and red carpets, but in the actual movie, they looked fine.
Famke is an extreme example though. It almost looks botched or something ya know? Idk judging by your reaction alone, if she’s not in the movie, that’s the reason. They don’t want people leaving the theaters after Doomsday saying “holy shit did you see how different Jean looks!?!?” They want them leaving saying “what an banger! Everyone looked great!”
Again again, I’m not saying it’s impossible or that they SHOULDN’T bring back Famke, I think they should, but as we all know, Disney is definitely conscious of their image and the image of the actors they work with. She doesn’t have any crazy political views or big allegations that I can find, so if she’s not in this movie, I can’t see a reason for not including her outside of that it would simply be jarring and she does not at all look like the Jean Grey she was back in the day. Everyone else mostly still looks like themselves.
lakefront123452025-11-19 05:14
She was great in Nip Tuck and Goldeneye.
Not hating on anything, I don't understand (overall) why people do work and feel the need to.
But, I am hoping doomsday is good. I'm not sure what I liked minus gotg3 and Shang chi.
Fantastic four bored me.
I miss the movies before the end of the infinity movies.
GreasyStool882025-11-19 05:52
You got downvoted, but honestly, you are 100% on it. You bring back legacy characters to honor them and deliver memories again. When a person looks this different, it defeats the nostalgia angle of who audiences remember, and instead will jar them and take them out of the movie.
a_phantom_limb2025-11-19 04:45
Anna Paquin also hasn't been confirmed for the film. That's four major actors not confirmed and six confirmed, plus Channing Tatum. Maybe the script just didn't have room for every star of the *X-Men* franchise, so they chose to focus on specific characters.
Triforce8052025-11-19 04:47
I’d agree if it wasn’t for the heaps of unconfirmed important exisiting MCU characters that haven’t been confirmed like Shang-Chi, Ms Marvel, Kate Bishop etc.
a_phantom_limb2025-11-19 04:56
Shang-Chi is, in fact, confirmed for the film. Simu Liu was part of the original cast announcement. He's also commented repeatedly about how great he thinks the movie is going to be.
As for Hailee Steinfeld's Kate Bishop and Iman Vellani's Kamala Khan, my point still applies about there possibly not being room for every major star in the script.
It's not like I don't want to see all of these characters again, but I've grown really skeptical that there are loads more people in the cast that have yet to be announced. Are there *some*, particularly if announcing those actors would spoil elements of the plot? Probably, yeah! But I think a lot of people just aren't actually in the movie.
Optimal_Lifeguard5752025-11-19 08:11
Isn’t Anna also dealing some serious health issues, that could a good reason to sit this out
a_phantom_limb2025-11-19 13:27
Yes, she is.
a_phantom_limb2025-11-19 04:36
Except there are several other key *X-Men* actors seemingly not involved, including Halle Berry and Anna Paquin - and, you know, *Hugh Jackman*.
jerem17342025-11-19 04:43
They'll be in secret wars
ABC_Dildos_Inc2025-11-19 04:51
Hugh Jackman already returned for the MCU.
LnStrngr2025-11-19 05:05
And he’ll keep doing it, ‘til he’s 90!
a_phantom_limb2025-11-19 05:08
That's not the question though. It's who is or isn't in this specific movie.
DJC132025-11-19 05:09
Not the point.
Markus28222025-11-19 05:14
Someone confirmed Anna Paquin in these responses. How legitimate that is who knows. I haven’t looked into it. But this wouldn’t be the first time she wasn’t included or cut. I also think you’re over exaggerating her importance she’s not on the same level imo.
Halle Berry seems to be her not returning out of her own unwillingness and distaste for those movies.
And considering Hugh Jackmans friendship to Ryan Reynolds and their last appearance being together, I think this is far more up in the air than you think. It’s both been officially confirmed and officially denied that Ryan will appear in the movie based on major sources. Considering their irl friendship and last appearance I’d consider them a packaged deal and this is really a coin toss no indication they won’t be in the movie.
So we’re comparing this to someone who is of lesser importance who’s already been cut and ignored, someone who openly seems to hate returning to that word and someone who is truly unknown whether or not they’re returning.
I don’t see how this is compelling evidence that she won’t appear.
Honestly personally I believe her. I think it’s really dumb she’s not in it, but I do believe her words. Based on nothing else other than her tone and word choice. This is just really poor evidence. And I’m keeping my mind open
blackbutterfree2025-11-19 04:57
But she did get ambushed in the tampon aisle. I still cannot believe someone did that to her. Like, the audacity.
AceofKnaves442025-11-19 04:03
Didn’t we get the trades swearing up and down that Tom Cruise was going to be in Strange 2 as Superior Iron Man?
belle_enfant2025-11-19 04:10
Iir that was the actual plan though, it just didn't work out
Antrikshy2025-11-19 08:34
Michael Waldron later said they thought it was a cool idea but never actually reached out to Tom Cruise.
Could be lying though, for various reasons of confidentiality.
queerhistorynerd2025-11-19 22:46
that what losers pathetically claim about every rumor that turned out to be bullshit instead of admitting they were wrong
edit: for those down voting and denying reaity:
> When asked about Cruise and fan speculation regarding the actor appearing in the sequel, screenwriter Michael Waldron said "Yeah, that was totally made up."
GillGruntFan532025-11-19 04:18
They never said that
Impossible_Front44622025-11-19 04:20
Nope just leakers who got the info on actual initial concepts
storksghast2025-11-19 13:42
The trades didn't say any such thing.
SeegullJockey2025-11-19 04:03
Huge difference between acknowledging Agents of Shield and this.
Sunshine1452025-11-19 04:04
Yea but absolutely no one cares about her or Agent of Shield, it's not the same thing.
Natiel3602025-11-19 04:07
Do people care about Famke?
Necessary_Piccolo2102025-11-19 04:29
I care about how unbelievably fine she was in GoldenEye
Bitter_Classic_892025-11-19 04:10
This comment should be an arrestable fucking offensive
siestarrific2025-11-19 04:16
Hey fuck you man
FewWatermelonlesson02025-11-19 04:20
It really is the same thing. Fact is, as conspiratorial as fans get, sometimes actors are being truthful when they say they’re not in something.
Sunshine1452025-11-19 04:24
The difference is she'd never be on the mcu's radar to begin with. When it's a valid question to Famke since the other X-Men are returning.
FewWatermelonlesson02025-11-19 04:37
And there’s nothing to indicate Famke was on Marvel’s radar either since she says they never contacted her.
vfoster2025-11-19 04:24
😂
Bitter_Classic_892025-11-19 04:09
HA. Jokes one you pal
Secret invasion doesn’t exist, so Chloe never lied
LampyV22025-11-19 04:10
Justice for Chloe Bennett!
Emm_withoutha_L-882025-11-19 04:29
That one was obvious. Feige doesn't play nice with other series that he didn't make. It's why the only marvel tv show he let be canon was the one he worked on, agent Carter. Even though Agents of Shield was far far far more popular and still has fans to this day, the won't let them in.
Same reason a cartoon show he was involved in 20 years ago gets a reboot but nothing else does.
He really needs to learn to accept that just cus he didn't do it doesn't mean it's not worthy.
havewelost63882025-11-19 04:39
He didn't work on Daredevil, yet Born Again exists. Not to mention Matt Murdock in Now Way Home.
Emm_withoutha_L-882025-11-19 04:46
Yeah that was after they made an entire season and it was hot garbage. That's why they had to reshoot the entire season of born again.
Why do you get so pissy as to downvote cus I criticized a rich guy? Marvel isn't your momma, grow up.
havewelost63882025-11-19 05:00
*What* downvote? I didn't downvote you. More to the point, *you're* the one getting "pissy" about a downvote, and you're telling *me* to grow up? Get a grip.
Emm_withoutha_L-882025-11-19 05:01
It's rude to just start with that simply cus someone lightly criticized a rich movie producer
Temporary_Draft_66122025-11-19 04:48
even there, they danced around the idea of de-cannonizing the Netflix lore for many years. It was only in '24 where they said all of the Defenders-verse is cannon. They also attempted toning down the realism and grittiness of Netflix Daredevil with Hawkeye and She-Hulk, you could tell the intention was very much to distance themselves from Netflix Daredevil.
The only reason Cox and Vincent returned was because they knew damn well they weren't going to find better actors for Murdock and Wilson even if they tried. And so they dangled the carrot.
mastyrwerk2025-11-19 04:33
Man, it would have been so much better if she was.
Paris_Who2025-11-19 05:53
Bring Chloe Bennett back even if you change quakes backstory a little bit she’s a good actor for the character it’s a shame to waste a character that there are already fans of and is already mcu adjacent.
Ryogi2025-11-19 08:19
It's such a shame since I've not seen her in any other show for the past few years. It's such a waste of her talents.
lemon_cake_or_death2025-11-19 12:41
She was one of the leads in a really good show called Interior Chinatown last year. It's worth checking out.
Antrikshy2025-11-19 08:35
Explanation: All the time traveling landed them in a different timeline in the sacred timeline. Easily returned in Secret Wars.
sucksfor_you2025-11-19 12:29
Which is literally the best explanation for how the show didn't seem to be in the same universe as the MCU after season 5/Thanos attacks.
poopoobuttholes2025-11-19 11:58
To be fair, I'd say I wasn't in Secret Invasion too, regardless of whether I was in it or not. Being associated with such hot ass must be scary.
siestarrific2025-11-19 03:52
It would be cool but entirely unnecessary, considering Sophie Turner took over several movies ago.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 03:54
They are bringing the original X-Men cast, not the prequel cast.
mriabtsev2025-11-19 03:54
They're bringing back most of the old/original cast and none of the younger ones, as far as I've seen.
ZekeorSomething2025-11-19 04:36
I think they’d probably bring Evan Peters back again but after him that’s where it stops.
kelryngrey2025-11-19 07:09
Yeaaah, that would be wildly stupid to just skip Jean. I hope this is an obvious deception but I'd also somehow not be surprised if they dropped the ball hard.
mriabtsev2025-11-19 07:21
Just speculation I've previously read- apparently it has to do with Famke being pretty unrecognizable now. (Plastic surgery? I dunno).
kelryngrey2025-11-19 07:38
She still looks like herself. Check the wiki articles for [her](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famke_Janssen) and [Halle Berry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle_Berry), they both look like women of their age. There's basically zero push to replace dudes when they get old but people are sure it's fine to replace women, standard sexist stuff that people carry on with unthinkingly.
Edit: Let me add some video of her from a show that's out [this year](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DOm2D_72U). She's still beautiful, she's just aged, like Patrick Stewart has but we don't call him out on looking more frail and having more facial folds and sagging.
mriabtsev2025-11-19 07:44
I'm pretty face blind but she looks starkly different to me in a way that tons of actresses I've aged with (Including Halle Berry) simply do not. I've looked at her photos, as recently as just before I wrote my last comment! Old =/= unrecognizable.
On the other hand, having the only returning woman be the one who was naked and in extensive blue body paint isn't exactly a point of support in their direction so, you know what, you're almost certainly right /:
Pure-Plankton-46062025-11-19 04:14
Literally no one from those movies is cast lmao. Besides DOFP.
MrSpookShire2025-11-19 03:52
Doom taking down the Phoenix would’ve been something
Overall_Affect_27822025-11-19 03:56
No shot. I love Doom as a comic character but I’m tired of the Phoenix being neutered in the movies.
I’m close to 40 so I hope I see Phoenix/Dark Phoenix on screen again at some point, but when I do I want to see a faithful **Phoenix/Dark Phoenix**; not what we’ve been given (although I loved Famke as Jean).
SpaceQueenJupiter2025-11-19 04:09
Please, a comic accurate Phoenix is all i'm asking for at this point. Famke did great with what she had to work with, but give us the actual story.
OilersGirl292025-11-19 04:12
Okay, you seem knowledgeable, and based off your comment and your flare, I’m curious: who is stronger, Dark Phoenix or Scarlet Witch
Overall_Affect_27822025-11-19 04:20
Phoenix by far.
TheSexyShaman2025-11-19 04:20
Has to be DP. She has cosmic level powers. Essentially a god
SpaceQueenJupiter2025-11-19 14:15
Movie versions? Probably Scarlet Witch. Comics? Probably Phoenix she's a cosmic entity. Although Wanda with full reality Warping, I'm not sure that she's ever done one of her big ones while Jean was around and Phoenix for us to see if it works on her. Like I'm pretty sure Jean wasn't around for No More Mutants.
CaptainAaron962025-11-19 17:34
Good points! I think who wins is often going to be subject to plot armour bc they’ve definitely never appeared together while both being full OP.
WhitePhoenix992025-11-20 04:38
Phoenix and it's not even close. Phoenix is creation and destruction itself. Phoenix is second only to Toaa
International-Tie5012025-11-19 13:43
Preferably a comics-accurate Phoenix who is not shoehorned into a completely unrelated plot.
SpaceQueenJupiter2025-11-19 14:16
My dream scenario would be Phoenix over an entire phase, popping up in other X-Men projects and culminating with the original Dark Phoenix story. Because if we don't care about Jean for Jean, the Phoenix story losses all the impact.
flcinusa2025-11-19 04:10
Just keep Simon Kinberg away from it, he's 0-2
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 04:19
Simon Kinberg didn’t direct X-Men: The Last Stand. That was Brett Ratner. Just saying.
Overall_Affect_27822025-11-19 04:22
He wrote it and Dark Phoenix though. And directed DP. So he is 0-2.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 04:34
He was only co-writer alongside Matthew Vaughn (who later directed and co-wrote of X-Men: First Class) and Zack Penn. Brett Ratner himself admitted that he didn’t translate the script properly because the production/filming was rushed. That’s partly the reason why the Dark Phoenix movie was made.
Kinberg wasn’t even the head writer, Matthew Vaughn was. Vaughn was also set to direct the film before dropping out, so he had much more creative control in the writing process than the other two writers. So claiming Kinberg was the leading creative force behind Last Stand is silly.
WeirdIndividualGuy2025-11-19 05:10
> Brett Ratner himself admitted that he didn’t translate the script properly
Translate it from…English?
Rushed production doesn’t excuse poor writing
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 05:53
By ”translate” I mean film what it is in the script onto the screen.
You can give a director the best script possible, but the movie isn’t going to be good if you give them only a day to make it. That’s my point.
HandBanana6662025-11-19 09:38
No offense, but people still think that writers are the head creators on a film? lol
There is a reason why directors are far more celebrated than writers. That’s because the director is the leader of the creative team.
Pen_dragons_pizza2025-11-19 09:44
Little rat man
cajun_vegeta2025-11-19 03:58
Secret Wars will have the extended cameos, Doomsday *should* try and limit them really.
Grayx_28872025-11-19 03:59
I don't believe anything that these actors say anymore. In fact, I think the mainstream media is full of shit.
impuritor2025-11-19 03:59
No point in even asking these stupid questions if you’re going to dismiss the answer outright.
collinwade2025-11-19 04:02
Just exactly what she WOULD say…
Shades_of_red_2025-11-19 04:04
I don’t know why people ask actors anymore
If the studios want it public knowledge that an actor is in a movie, they’ll either have the actors make a statement themselves, or the studio will make the statement
havewelost63882025-11-19 04:40
They do it to get a frivolous response they can turn into clickbait.
RE_982025-11-19 05:16
Clickbait…I hate the ones where an article takes up half a page but we really just needed that one quote. Not to mention spelling and grammar errors too
Antrikshy2025-11-19 08:36
Because there is a strong economic incentive. There's a high dollar value on the headline even if they slip up slightly.
xgalahadx2025-11-20 03:01
And consider too that vast majority of people who see these movies will never know the random press articles 13 months before the movie comes out
Subject-Ad50712025-11-19 04:05
People need to start believing these actors. After Andrew Garfield, every actor who said they weren’t in something weren’t in it. Also, look at the atmosphere, actors aren’t as excited about superhero stuff or excited to be in it as much. They don’t give a fuck enough to hype it. Older actors who have been in the MCU for years don’t are as much anymore. Btw, I don’t really like the actors who keep hyping up their characters’ power level. Power level isn’t a character or a reason to keep loving a character. It looks like compensating.
The quality dropped and the time for endless excitement about superhero stuff has ended. No thanks to the quality dropping, which is a major factor.
ZekeorSomething2025-11-19 04:31
Dafne Keen said she wasn’t in Deadpool & Wolverine and she was in it and that was after Andrew lied.
Subject-Ad50712025-11-19 05:46
That’s only 1. If Famke was gonna be in this, I’m pretty sure they would have announced it with the rest of the cast from the old movies. It makes more sense for this, because X23’s appearance is a spoiler. Obviously no one asked Chris Evans or Wesley Snipes if they were gonna be in D&W. I’m surprised Famke is not in it because she is alive in the timeline made by Days of Future Past.
AceofKnaves442025-11-19 04:06
My prediction is that Hugh isn’t a part of this team because they’re all going to get their flowers and big sendoff before they’re killed. Hugh’s Wolverine will be in Secret Wars as his version from Deadpool and Wolverine as a team of the multiversal Avengers with Deadpool, and Tobey’s Spider-Man among other legacy characters as survivors from their universes incursion. While that explains him not being there, I don’t know how the fuck you do an X-men team without Jean or Storm. If Famke and Halle were asked but just didn’t wanna do it, couldn’t agree on money, or just couldn’t make it work with their schedule, that’s one thing. But if they just weren’t asked that’s kind of unacceptable I think.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 05:19
Kevin Feige said that the films are about beginnings, not endings. And a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine is currently in development. So it doesn’t seem like it will be a send off.
MasterWinston2025-11-19 04:06
Good chance she’s lying but a big mistake if she’s telling the truth
spectralconfetti2025-11-19 04:09
At this point I think the only way to convince people you aren't in an upcoming mcu project is to directly badmouth marvel/disney
ACEof522025-11-19 04:10
I mean are at this point why lie
RC350f2025-11-19 04:18
That's cause she's returning as Phoenix.
WildFire2552025-11-19 04:19
I liked her in Hemlock Grove, too bad we can’t watch it anymore.
Popular_Material_4092025-11-19 04:27
I think I believe her on this. Because they already announced James Marsden and Alan Cumming and Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan. Famke Janssen returning as Jean Grey doesn’t have the same “holy shit!” impact as some of the other actors they did announce. So saving her reveal for something big doesn’t really make sense.
SlashOfLife52962025-11-19 04:27
Famke is a little too good at playing sly
freeformz2025-11-19 04:30
:-(
foofighters922025-11-19 04:30
Man I had the biggest crush on her when X Men dropped when I was a teen.
OldBillBatter2025-11-19 17:31
Pretty sure I still do
phatboyart2025-11-19 04:30
“Can you tell about your secret appearance which is meant to be a secret, and if you say no i’ll just assume the secret you’re not meant to talk about is being kept a secret whether you are appearing or not?”
Universal_Watcher2025-11-19 04:34
Plot twist: She's playing Madelyne Pryor.
CaptainAaron962025-11-19 17:45
Oh I’d highkey love seeing this in theatre with no warning.
TylerHyena2025-11-19 04:35
I’m too skeptical now to honestly believe her after Tobey and Andrew tried to act like they weren’t in No Way Home. That and it wouldn’t make sense for her to give anyway even the smallest reveals or plot points of the movie.
vim_deezel2025-11-19 04:51
That plus they might have an NDA agreement and if she does she's breaking her contract and would lose a shitload of money. That will keep lips tight.
Shadowrocket03152025-11-19 04:36
I'm inclined to believe her tbh. Famke's and Halle Berry's names appearing in that chair video would've amplified peoples' anticipation levels even more than it did. And I'm not really seeing the case for keeping them under wraps in the way Maguire and Garfield were for NWH considering we already know we're getting other members of the Fox cast.
mrbaryonyx2025-11-19 04:40
headline leaves open the possibility of her returning as Xenia Onatopp
dark_wishmaster2025-11-19 04:46
That’s because she’ll be in Secret Wars. Smart move Famke.
vim_deezel2025-11-19 04:49
No judgement zone if she's lying here. She has to, would love to see her back tho
Responsible-Pain-6202025-11-19 04:54
I feel like each of the next avengers movies is slowly giving a group of xmen actors their send off. I'm going to trust her and believe that she's not in the xmen send off of doomsday but her and the remaining xmen actors will appear in secret wars.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 05:17
Kevin Feige said that the films are about beginnings, not endings. And a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine is currently in development. So it doesn’t seem like it will be a send off.
SeekerVash2025-11-19 14:38
There isn't a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine in development. It's apparently a low priority project for Marvel if you google it.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 15:55
Ryan Reynolds said he is working on ideas for an ensemble featuring Deadpool. You’re technically right since that isn’t in the development stage.
blackbutterfree2025-11-19 04:58
Can't believe Marvel Studios brought back Jennifer Garner's Elektra and Rebecca Romjin's Mystique, but *not* Famke Janssen's Jean Grey or Halle Berry's Storm.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 05:13
Probably because they are too powerful. That’s the reason why Thor and Hulk were left out of Civil War.
blackbutterfree2025-11-19 05:15
I mean, I know this thread is specifically about Doomsday which is essentially Avengers vs. X-Men, so you're right.
But to keep them both out of Secret Wars as well? (Famke has addressed Secret Wars too.) We'll need every heavy hitter in Secret Wars.
TheKocsis2025-11-19 09:18
It's 'vs'?
cuckingfomputer2025-11-19 15:12
Also, Halle Berry probably couldn't even be bribed to come back. The story about how she was literally conned into joining one of the X-Men movies is wild.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 15:55
She did come back for Days of Future Past though.
CaptHayfever2025-11-19 17:32
Because Singer came back as well, & he hadn't been involved in the con job on X-Men 3.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-19 17:41
Doesn’t seem like she liked Singer though from what I’ve heard.
CaptainAaron962025-11-19 17:28
100%, ditto for the Infinity War writing and why Thanos waited so long. I think the movie will make clear why they aren’t there.
International-Tie5012025-11-19 13:29
Halle Berry probably wouldn't want to come back, even if asked.
matito292025-11-19 17:24
I realize that the entire thing could be written off as “multiverse shenanigans,” but isn’t Jean dead in the original Fox X-Men universe? Or does the fact that she’s at the school at the end of Days of Future Past mean that the history of entire Fox universe was rewritten?
Careless_Royal82092025-11-19 05:07
TheBlur119022025-11-19 05:15
She will be returning as the Phoenix
Shagyam2025-11-19 05:19
Man i couldnt imagine being someone who was in a Marvel/X-men movie right now. They must be asked about this non stop.
RandyTheFool2025-11-19 05:31
She’s not in it because Marvel is still looking for Famke Janssen, not realizing she’s been Nicole Kidman-ing her face this whole time.
Kookykrumbs2025-11-19 05:51
I’m just gonna point to the elephant in the room and say that she wasn’t invited back because she has aged. No amount of make-up will make her look like a woman in her forties. And that’s fine. But I’m pretty sure that those in charge don’t want a Jean past her prime. Famke looks nothing like she did in the first three films. And unfortunately, movies are all about looks, especially if you’re a woman. Besides, I’m sure she has better things to do, and I’m sure she has better things to do than to want to go back to a franchise that’s saying in no uncertain terms that they have no use for her anymore.
idiot-prodigy2025-11-19 07:26
Yep, it is why Kelly McGillis was absent from Top Gun Maverick.
rawchess2025-11-19 08:25
I'm massively annoyed with Hollywood misogyny in general but I don't think this is it when there's an easier explanation: they've already cast their new Jean Grey and simply want to avoid any confusion.
Highly doubt it's a coincidence that Sadie Sink's suspiciously secret character is in BND and ASW while Janssen is the rare Fox X-Men member not returning for the film sandwiched between them...
Kookykrumbs2025-11-19 17:31
Sadie Sink’s role is Spider-man related. Not X-Men.
Silo-Joe2025-11-20 00:02
Tobey Maguire Spider-man's daughter?
CaptainAaron962025-11-19 17:40
Oh my god you could be on to something, I can highkey see Sadie being an incredible Jean, even if Stranger Things and All Too Well are all I have to go by atm. I wonder who the rest of the team could be played by then, assuming they’d want to stick in the same age range.
HandBanana6662025-11-19 10:36
They have characters who are in their 80s in this film.
DukeOfLowerChelsea2025-11-19 15:06
*Male characters, who have always been portrayed as “the old guys”
Athnyx2025-11-19 16:38
I’m thinking it’s more due to all the work she’s done to her face…
Elvarien22025-11-19 07:42
I mean that's fair right? We'll see something enough anyway.
LittleCupcake24782025-11-19 08:28
It can sound like both the truth or a very compelling delivery of it from someone who signed an NDA.
jujuwasp2025-11-19 09:16
Her Jean still holds a special place in my heart. I would love to see her back.
VendetaBereta2025-11-19 10:33
I would be pissed if everyone asked me this on every interview. Leave the poor woman alone.
Aerynsw2025-11-19 10:48
Okay we got it
Let’s move on jeez
All the luck in your future endeavours
Own_Giraffe_69282025-11-19 11:25
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CaptainAaron962025-11-19 17:38
150%, I never truly believed that the X-Men at the end of The Marvels were the OG 10005 gang, strictly because of Binary existing there tbh. I think it’s a soft reboot/variant timeline. Ditto for Deadpool bc I don’t know if that can be considered 10005, as I think the Westchester Incident was already supposed to have happened by the time of DP&W?
HowardBunnyColvin2025-11-19 12:47
Damn shame
storksghast2025-11-19 12:54
Marvel fans are so werewolf-pilled they can't imagine that sincere denials also exist.
Remember Chloe Bennet and Secret Invasion?
cal_nevari2025-11-19 14:55
She's almost as old as Jean Grey (Jean first appeared in xmen 62 years ago and Famke is 61 years old).
It's been 11 years since she appeared in a major film (Taken 3).
She's a year older than Sir Patrick was in his first xmen movie.
Maybe they might recast her. Get a nice lolkkng 50 yesr old to play Jean?
Salarian_American2025-11-19 17:30
It's nothin personal, we just know better than to believe actors when they say they weren't cast in a Marvel project.
Mamsies2025-11-19 19:03
Tbh I believe her on this.
I think they deliberately didn’t bring back Storm or Jean Grey because they have plans for those characters to be the lead members of the MCU’s new X-Men team and they want those new versions to be able to shine without people instantly comparing them to the old cast.
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I mean, basically every time I see a post with her face in it, one of the top comments is “WHAT HAPPENED TO HER???” It honestly is a little distracting. Again, I’m not saying it couldn’t or shouldn’t be done. I think it would be awesome if they got the entire main cast.
I just watched a podcast with Debbie Dunning (tool time), and she has the same stuff.
I don't get it. I'd rather age naturally, but I'm also not a celebrity.
Famke is an extreme example though. It almost looks botched or something ya know? Idk judging by your reaction alone, if she’s not in the movie, that’s the reason. They don’t want people leaving the theaters after Doomsday saying “holy shit did you see how different Jean looks!?!?” They want them leaving saying “what an banger! Everyone looked great!”
Again again, I’m not saying it’s impossible or that they SHOULDN’T bring back Famke, I think they should, but as we all know, Disney is definitely conscious of their image and the image of the actors they work with. She doesn’t have any crazy political views or big allegations that I can find, so if she’s not in this movie, I can’t see a reason for not including her outside of that it would simply be jarring and she does not at all look like the Jean Grey she was back in the day. Everyone else mostly still looks like themselves.
Not hating on anything, I don't understand (overall) why people do work and feel the need to.
But, I am hoping doomsday is good. I'm not sure what I liked minus gotg3 and Shang chi.
Fantastic four bored me.
I miss the movies before the end of the infinity movies.
As for Hailee Steinfeld's Kate Bishop and Iman Vellani's Kamala Khan, my point still applies about there possibly not being room for every major star in the script.
It's not like I don't want to see all of these characters again, but I've grown really skeptical that there are loads more people in the cast that have yet to be announced. Are there *some*, particularly if announcing those actors would spoil elements of the plot? Probably, yeah! But I think a lot of people just aren't actually in the movie.
Halle Berry seems to be her not returning out of her own unwillingness and distaste for those movies.
And considering Hugh Jackmans friendship to Ryan Reynolds and their last appearance being together, I think this is far more up in the air than you think. It’s both been officially confirmed and officially denied that Ryan will appear in the movie based on major sources. Considering their irl friendship and last appearance I’d consider them a packaged deal and this is really a coin toss no indication they won’t be in the movie.
So we’re comparing this to someone who is of lesser importance who’s already been cut and ignored, someone who openly seems to hate returning to that word and someone who is truly unknown whether or not they’re returning.
I don’t see how this is compelling evidence that she won’t appear.
Honestly personally I believe her. I think it’s really dumb she’s not in it, but I do believe her words. Based on nothing else other than her tone and word choice. This is just really poor evidence. And I’m keeping my mind open
Could be lying though, for various reasons of confidentiality.
edit: for those down voting and denying reaity:
> When asked about Cruise and fan speculation regarding the actor appearing in the sequel, screenwriter Michael Waldron said "Yeah, that was totally made up."
Secret invasion doesn’t exist, so Chloe never lied
Same reason a cartoon show he was involved in 20 years ago gets a reboot but nothing else does.
He really needs to learn to accept that just cus he didn't do it doesn't mean it's not worthy.
Why do you get so pissy as to downvote cus I criticized a rich guy? Marvel isn't your momma, grow up.
The only reason Cox and Vincent returned was because they knew damn well they weren't going to find better actors for Murdock and Wilson even if they tried. And so they dangled the carrot.
Edit: Let me add some video of her from a show that's out [this year](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DOm2D_72U). She's still beautiful, she's just aged, like Patrick Stewart has but we don't call him out on looking more frail and having more facial folds and sagging.
On the other hand, having the only returning woman be the one who was naked and in extensive blue body paint isn't exactly a point of support in their direction so, you know what, you're almost certainly right /:
I’m close to 40 so I hope I see Phoenix/Dark Phoenix on screen again at some point, but when I do I want to see a faithful **Phoenix/Dark Phoenix**; not what we’ve been given (although I loved Famke as Jean).
Kinberg wasn’t even the head writer, Matthew Vaughn was. Vaughn was also set to direct the film before dropping out, so he had much more creative control in the writing process than the other two writers. So claiming Kinberg was the leading creative force behind Last Stand is silly.
Translate it from…English?
Rushed production doesn’t excuse poor writing
You can give a director the best script possible, but the movie isn’t going to be good if you give them only a day to make it. That’s my point.
There is a reason why directors are far more celebrated than writers. That’s because the director is the leader of the creative team.
If the studios want it public knowledge that an actor is in a movie, they’ll either have the actors make a statement themselves, or the studio will make the statement
The quality dropped and the time for endless excitement about superhero stuff has ended. No thanks to the quality dropping, which is a major factor.
But to keep them both out of Secret Wars as well? (Famke has addressed Secret Wars too.) We'll need every heavy hitter in Secret Wars.
Highly doubt it's a coincidence that Sadie Sink's suspiciously secret character is in BND and ASW while Janssen is the rare Fox X-Men member not returning for the film sandwiched between them...
Let’s move on jeez
All the luck in your future endeavours
Remember Chloe Bennet and Secret Invasion?
It's been 11 years since she appeared in a major film (Taken 3).
She's a year older than Sir Patrick was in his first xmen movie.
Maybe they might recast her. Get a nice lolkkng 50 yesr old to play Jean?
I think they deliberately didn’t bring back Storm or Jean Grey because they have plans for those characters to be the lead members of the MCU’s new X-Men team and they want those new versions to be able to shine without people instantly comparing them to the old cast.